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ELUNA Primo Working Group Discussion: Making DEI-related changes to Alma and Primo metadata - Shared screen with speaker view
Deborah T Tomaras
04:14
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1V5Sv-LGjIsE4TEGBJH507iwwWW0Wb91OUVTLqBD28Gw/edit?usp=sharing
Drew Parker
14:27
We'll just wait a couple of minutes for everyone to file in :)
Corinna [Kareena] Baksik
15:28
Wow!! So many folks!
Margaret Heller
15:46
Yes, great to see so many people!
Marc d'Avernas, (he/him) Mount Royal University
16:50
yep
Elizabeth York (Rutgers)
16:51
yes
Katie Dunn
17:43
Will slides be distributed afterwards?
Margaret Heller
17:51
Yes they will
Margaret Heller
18:11
We'll send out the slides and the breakout room summaries
Katie Dunn
18:18
thanks!
Dejah Rubel
18:19
HA you heard my brain!!
Dejah Rubel
18:26
It makes a difference on small screens, thanks.
Deborah T Tomaras
19:27
Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1V5Sv-LGjIsE4TEGBJH507iwwWW0Wb91OUVTLqBD28Gw/edit?usp=sharing
Deborah T Tomaras
19:40
Breakout rooms: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rF08Pqj9cDUHRF_ttqgPvu3NhaeryCpd?usp=share_link
Deborah T Tomaras
19:58
DEI enhancements from the DEI in Search Advisory Group: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mByBSWNA0MBQiNc2tRDend01ewDGcBtkAtOiF1KlL8k/edit?usp=sharing
Corinna [Kareena] Baksik
22:20
FWIW non-preferred terms shouldn't appear at all in facets, IMO. Should only be used for searching
Dejah Rubel
22:41
Agreed!
Deborah T Tomaras
22:56
Absolutely agree, Corinna.
Corinna [Kareena] Baksik
23:23
Any volunteers to write that up for NERS? I guess it would go into the Primo product
Chiat Naun Chew
23:31
Primo facets: saying the quiet part out loud
Corinna [Kareena] Baksik
23:43
😝
Deborah T Tomaras
24:08
I would love a NERS enhancement that only authorized terms from controlled vocabularies should ever appear in the catalog.
allenjones
24:16
“Uncontrolled” terms are rarely flagged in article metadata from publishers, so when we had these conversations, it has been sent to publishers to fix upstream
Margaret Heller
24:16
If we want any additional breakout rooms to discuss specific NERS ideas we can add one
Jackie Saavedra (WRLC)
24:34
It goes to show that Ex Libris doesn't understand how authority control works
allenjones
24:35
Conversations with Ex Libris
Dejah Rubel
25:18
I liked the suggestion to change the display. I hate having to change LGBTQ to Sexual minorities to make authority control happy.
allenjones
26:35
CDI has no authority control or normalization process that’s editable by customers.
Israel Yanez
26:54
In PBO, your new terms will be searchable. In VE, you'd need a new norm rule for seach, plus have all relevant bib records reindexed by Ex L
Sarah Osborne Bender (she/her)
26:55
+100 Jackie
Corinna [Kareena] Baksik
27:57
Video is helpful
Ellen Augustiniak
28:09
Yup great example in the video thx!
Melissa De Fino (she/her)
29:53
Why are all of these methods only changing display and not changing the metadata itself?
Deborah T Tomaras
30:20
There are some methods to change or augment the metadata later on.
Dejah Rubel
30:24
Customers don't have access to CDI's black box.
allenjones
30:33
@Melissa - because it’s running when the interface is rendered and not the metadata underneath
Liz Bodian
30:39
We are so lucky to have Drew to make these changes!
Melissa De Fino (she/her)
31:01
Thank you, Deborah
Margaret Heller
31:31
You can report metadata issues to CDI vendors, but you can't control when those are fixed, so these are some approaches to fixing display in the mean time
Joseph N.
33:23
­­­­­But one can theoretically create a search and facet normalization rule (in addition to the norm rule that replaces terms) that would allow users to click on hyperlinked subject strings with replaced terms and find other resources with those strings. Wouldn't affect the CDI problem, however.
Cheryl Davenport
35:56
When you refer to local record changes, is this IZ or does this include NZ records for consortia with a network zone where the process is to get updates pushed to the NZ record from OCLC?
karina (she/her)
36:31
can we get the link in the chat please? :)
Margaret Heller
36:54
link to slides is here" https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1V5Sv-LGjIsE4TEGBJH507iwwWW0Wb91OUVTLqBD28Gw/edit?usp=sharingu3NhaeryCpd?usp=share_linkdit?usp=sharing
karina (she/her)
37:00
ty!
Corinna [Kareena] Baksik
37:40
Harvard's list of authority control issues. Please let me know if you know of any that are missing: https://wiki.harvard.edu/confluence/display/LibraryStaffDoc/Alma+Known+Issues#AlmaKnownIssues-AuthorityControl
Dejah Rubel
39:04
But the ACTL does flag them, so that's helpful. Better than LC!
Sarah Osborne Bender (she/her)
40:34
This session is already so valuable and fantastic.
Dejah Rubel
43:04
PUPPY <#
Margaret Heller
44:33
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rF08Pqj9cDUHRF_ttqgPvu3NhaeryCpd?usp=share_link
Katie Dunn
46:39
how do we assign ourselves?
Susan Perry
46:50
not seeing breakouts rooms
Megan K - CCSF Library (she/her)
46:57
I don't see the option to join
Angela Kroeger
46:57
Not seeing them either.
Jill Baron
47:01
Nor am i
Cheryl Davenport
47:01
Also not seeing breakout rooms
AnneMarie Welch
47:02
not seeing
Allison Bailund (she/her)
47:04
Also not seeing them
Israel Yanez
47:17
Me neither
yliang
47:24
Me neither
Joseph N.
47:51
The link to the slides in the email is just linking to the folder for breakout room note sets. Could you post the link to the slides in chat again? Thanks.
Melissa De Fino (she/her)
47:59
Where are we supposed to see the option? Is it a pop up screen?
Mark Braden (he/him/his)
48:02
Thank you for your efforts...
Dejah Rubel
48:06
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rF08Pqj9cDUHRF_ttqgPvu3NhaeryCpd
Mark Braden (he/him/his)
48:47
Following the link that Dejah offered, I see the list of Breakout Rooms
Cheryl Davenport
49:33
I don't see one for the augmenting metadata
Drew Parker
49:36
Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1V5Sv-LGjIsE4TEGBJH507iwwWW0Wb91OUVTLqBD28Gw/edit#slide=id.g1b5cb951b35_0_0
Margaret Heller
49:36
Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1V5Sv-LGjIsE4TEGBJH507iwwWW0Wb91OUVTLqBD28Gw/edit?usp=sharing
Katie M Sanders
49:46
I see the google breakout docs but no links.
Drew Parker
49:57
Augmenting is listed as adding
Emily Crawford
51:34
I'm not seeing an option to join a room in Zoom
Ashley N. Mitchell
51:59
The breakout rooms is a button by the live transcript button in Zoom. :)
Emily Crawford
52:29
I'm not seeing it?
Joseph N.
01:10:16
Could someone post the link to the slides again, please? The link in the email is just linking to the list of Google Docs for the discussion groups. Thanks.
Nancy Babb
01:10:23
This session was really helpful & interesting -- let's definitely have more of them!
Dejah Rubel
01:10:23
Great to see so many ppl!
Megan K - CCSF Library (she/her)
01:10:26
Happy Friday, everyone! And thanks for hosting this session.
Deborah T Tomaras
01:10:29
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1V5Sv-LGjIsE4TEGBJH507iwwWW0Wb91OUVTLqBD28Gw/edit?usp=sharing
Matthew Black
01:10:37
Thank you!
Joseph N.
01:10:38
Thank you
Liz Bodian
01:10:39
Thank you!
Elizabeth York (Rutgers)
01:10:40
thanks!
Nancy Babb
01:10:41
Thanks!
Stephanie Fletcher
01:10:42
Thanks!
Angela Kroeger
01:10:42
Thank you!
Allen Jones
01:10:42
Thanks!
Mingyan
01:10:42
Thanks!
Cheryl Davenport
01:10:43
Thanks all!
Euemduan Osmera|She|her
01:10:45
Thanks
David Floyd
01:10:46
thank you!
Katie M Sanders
01:10:49
thanks
karina (she/her)
01:10:50
thank you!